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Re: Uh-oh

Postby Positively4thStreet » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:01 pm

NoLibPerson wrote:Seems more than slightly presumptuous to provide an interpretation of Matt's offer in a manner other than what he actually stated.


I don't think so. Matt stated, "The NLNA is a nonprofit charity and does not endorse specific political parties or candidates." As I mentioned, a NLNA-sponsored event turned into a heated Obama rally. In other words, the NLNA HEAVILY ENDORSED a candidate! Therefore, Matt lied. I think it is quite prudent to question anything Matt says on the topic of partisan politics. He has blatantly shown this.
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby NoLibPerson » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:31 pm

Positively4thStreet wrote:
NoLibPerson wrote:Seems more than slightly presumptuous to provide an interpretation of Matt's offer in a manner other than what he actually stated.


I don't think so. Matt stated, "The NLNA is a nonprofit charity and does not endorse specific political parties or candidates." As I mentioned, a NLNA-sponsored event turned into a heated Obama rally. In other words, the NLNA HEAVILY ENDORSED a candidate! Therefore, Matt lied. I think it is quite prudent to question anything Matt says on the topic of partisan politics. He has blatantly shown this.


Sounds to me like Matt is just one more person you have a personal problem with in the neighborhood. I'll bet in a quick poll of the board asking whose posts are you more likely to trust---Matt or Positively4thStreettroll---you would, fittingly, be the clear loser. You should also really be careful about slandering people publicly. You could end up getting sued.
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby Positively4thStreet » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:04 am

NoLibPerson wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
NoLibPerson wrote:Seems more than slightly presumptuous to provide an interpretation of Matt's offer in a manner other than what he actually stated.


I don't think so. Matt stated, "The NLNA is a nonprofit charity and does not endorse specific political parties or candidates." As I mentioned, a NLNA-sponsored event turned into a heated Obama rally. In other words, the NLNA HEAVILY ENDORSED a candidate! Therefore, Matt lied. I think it is quite prudent to question anything Matt says on the topic of partisan politics. He has blatantly shown this.


Sounds to me like Matt is just one more person you have a personal problem with in the neighborhood. I'll bet in a quick poll of the board asking whose posts are you more likely to trust---Matt or Positively4thStreettroll---you would, fittingly, be the clear loser. You should also really be careful about slandering people publicly. You could end up getting sued.


Did Matt clearly state that the NLNA is politically neutral? Yes. Did the very same person turn an NLNA event into a political rally? Yes. Do you know the difference between slander and libel? No. Do you know what either slander or libel actually means? No. Is veracity confirmed by taking a poll? No. Do I give a shit that you have a personal problem with me? No. Am I correct on all these points? Indeed. I know you just want to be right, but you are not, and arguing over established facts just makes you a goof. Maybe we could take a poll to prove that.

Matt, care to comment? Maybe you could set this straight? Anyone else from the NLNA care to comment since Matt seems to be strategically silent on the question?

And I have absolutely no problem with Matt. Heck, I have no problem with his political agenda. I do, however, have a problem with his mendacious statement and when his words don't match his actions when he is acting in an official capacity. Since the NLNA claims to represent the neighbors, of which I am one, I think we deserve an official reply on this issue. After all, what I witnessed at that NLNA event turned political rally could possibly jeopardize their not-for-profit status.
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby Marco » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:46 am

Please don't feed the troll.
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby Positively4thStreet » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:18 pm

Marco wrote:Please don't feed the troll.

A troll being anyone who is not in your bulletin board circle jerk?
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby N3rdguy » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:54 pm

Marco wrote:Please don't feed the troll.


Unfortunately, even if you don't feed it, it stays around, whinging and moaning. A most persistent variety.
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby RomanAKAZark » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:15 pm

Marco wrote:Please don't feed the troll.

Oh please.......... You don't agree with someone, that automatically makes them a troll. This troll crap is so old and lame.. And 4thstreet if what you say is true, then that is rather disturbing. I will have to check into this.
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby mattruben » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:31 am

The Northern Liberties variety show is not an NLNA event. The NLNA doesn't organize it, or control who gets the proceeds.

It was begun in 2000 or 2001 by a neighbor. The first several years she donated the proceeds to building the playgrounds in Liberty Lands. Then when the playgrounds were finished, she donated the proceeds to Liberty Lands. Then for a year or two she donated them to the NLNA in general. Then another neighbor took over the show and she donated the proceeds to Town Watch. This past year she donated the proceeds to Street Tails Animal Rescue on Liberties Walk.

For two or three years I was asked to be MC of the show. I'd open each show with some kind of 2-3 minute tongue-in-cheek, topical routine. (And then I'd introduce each act throughout the show.)

One year I was Darth Vader and did a thing about casinos. Another year I had a Statue of Liberty costume (don't remember what that one was about). In 2008 I dressed as a colonial - although it was actually a pirate costume without the eye patch and the plastic parrot. In the opening routine, I read things some people in the media were saying about Obama - he was a Muslim, he was Kenyan, etc. Then Will.i.am's song that used snippets from an Obama speech came up on the PA system, and my routine did indeed end with a Yes We Can chant, following along with the song. If memory serves, the show also had five Sarah Palin impersonator acts.

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Matt
Matt Ruben
President, Northern Liberties Neighbors Association
700 N. 3rd St. 1st Fl. Phila PA 19123
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby NoLibPerson » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:49 am

There you have it.
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Re: Uh-oh

Postby Positively4thStreet » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:21 am

mattruben wrote:The Northern Liberties variety show is not an NLNA event. The NLNA doesn't organize it, or control who gets the proceeds.

It was begun in 2000 or 2001 by a neighbor. The first several years she donated the proceeds to building the playgrounds in Liberty Lands. Then when the playgrounds were finished, she donated the proceeds to Liberty Lands. Then for a year or two she donated them to the NLNA in general. Then another neighbor took over the show and she donated the proceeds to Town Watch. This past year she donated the proceeds to Street Tails Animal Rescue on Liberties Walk.

For two or three years I was asked to be MC of the show. I'd open each show with some kind of 2-3 minute tongue-in-cheek, topical routine. (And then I'd introduce each act throughout the show.)

One year I was Darth Vader and did a thing about casinos. Another year I had a Statue of Liberty costume (don't remember what that one was about). In 2008 I dressed as a colonial - although it was actually a pirate costume without the eye patch and the plastic parrot. In the opening routine, I read things some people in the media were saying about Obama - he was a Muslim, he was Kenyan, etc. Then Will.i.am's song that used snippets from an Obama speech came up on the PA system, and my routine did indeed end with a Yes We Can chant, following along with the song. If memory serves, the show also had five Sarah Palin impersonator acts.

Best,
Matt

My apologies, Matt. I didn't realize that the NLNA wasn't officially involved in this event. Thanks for clearing that up and good luck with your voter id initiative.
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