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[mattruben]

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/city/20120718_Analysis__Philly_voters_over_80_would_be_most_inconvenienced_by_new_ID_law.html

According to the Inky, 15.6% of Philadelphia voters currently lack photo ID.

That's not 15.6% of Philadelphians, or even of registered voters. It's 15.6% of active voters - people who have voted sometime in the last four years.

It's by far the highest percentage of voters without ID anywhere in PA.

The highest percentages are among those over 80, and aged 18-24. If you know anyone who you think might not have a photo ID, please contact us (my email is in my sig, or you can email pgansky or awaginger@aol.com). Give us the person's address or any contact info you might have. We'll help them get ID. We can keep your name confidential if you prefer.

The NLNA is a nonprofit charity and does not endorse specific political parties or candidates. But we want to make sure everyone has a chance to vote.

Best,
Matt

[Positively4thStreet]

The NLNA is a nonprofit charity and does not endorse specific political parties or candidates. But we want to make sure everyone has a chance to vote.

Best,
Matt

**wink, wink**

[Dan]

The NLNA is a nonprofit charity and does not endorse specific political parties or candidates. But we want to make sure everyone has a chance to vote.

Best,
Matt

**wink, wink**

Yea because we all know people in their 80's tend to vote progressive right? /Sarcasm

[David]

Yea because we all know people in their 80's tend to vote progressive right? /Sarcasm

Yes, they do. Age has nothing to do with political leanings. It depends on who someone is, where they're from and what they've learned during their lives. Many people in their 80s today grew up progressive. To stereotype an 80-year-old as a right-wing voter makes about as much sense as saying a 40-year-old will always vote liberal.

[Kent]

The NLNA is a nonprofit charity and does not endorse specific political parties or candidates. But we want to make sure everyone has a chance to vote.

Best,
Matt

**wink, wink**

or w

Yea because we all know people in their 80's tend to vote progressive right? /Sarcasm

So, they all vote Republican because 80 year-olds hate receiving Social Security and Medicare, right?

[Dan]

Yea because we all know people in their 80's tend to vote progressive right? /Sarcasm

Yes, they do. Age has nothing to do with political leanings. It depends on who someone is, where they're from and what they've learned during their lives. Many people in their 80s today grew up progressive. To stereotype an 80-year-old as a right-wing voter makes about as much sense as saying a 40-year-old will always vote liberal.

Did you even read your own post before you hit the submit button? let me show you the problem...

Yes, they do.

Age has nothing to do with political leanings.

Many people in their 80s today grew up progressive.

Make sure you agree with yourself before you try to disagree with me. Oh and you also TOTALLY missed my point. I was saying that we don't know how people in their 80's vote, hence Matt's post is non-political and 4th street is trolling (as usual).

[LukeNapoli]

Amazing how an innocuous offer to help prepare voters is received with such skepticism. If you believe in democracy you should want people to vote, regardless where their demographic's loyalties may or may not lie.

[Positively4thStreet]

Amazing how an innocuous offer to help prepare voters is received with such skepticism. If you believe in democracy you should want people to vote, regardless where their demographic's loyalties may or may not lie.

Maybe you weren't there when Matt led the crowd in a "Yes We Can" fist-pumping chant at the NLNA Variety Show in 2008. It was very clear that the NLNA was not a politically neutral organization.

[LukeNapoli]

Amazing how an innocuous offer to help prepare voters is received with such skepticism. If you believe in democracy you should want people to vote, regardless where their demographic's loyalties may or may not lie.

Maybe you weren't there when Matt lead the crowd in a "Yes We Can" fist-pumping chant at the NLNA Variety Show in 2008. It was very clear that the NLNA was not a politically neutral organization.

I guess I missed the part where he says a blood oath to vote Democrat in November is required in exchange for help with an ID. My bad.

[TheSomers]

Regardless of political beliefs, it is important for folks to plan ahead to be able to vote by complying with the new laws. The NLNA has done a super job to date by stressing this issue both here on the message board, on Facebook and the monthly community meetings.

The individual board members should be commended for their dedication to help those neighbors obtain what is necessary for them to be able to vote. That is what community is all about.

[Napoleon]

"Yes! We! Can!"...LOL!!

Hope and Change!!!

[Positively4thStreet]

Amazing how an innocuous offer to help prepare voters is received with such skepticism. If you believe in democracy you should want people to vote, regardless where their demographic's loyalties may or may not lie.

Maybe you weren't there when Matt lead the crowd in a "Yes We Can" fist-pumping chant at the NLNA Variety Show in 2008. It was very clear that the NLNA was not a politically neutral organization.

I guess I missed the part where he says a blood oath to vote Democrat in November is required in exchange for help with an ID. My bad.

Apology accepted. How were you to know that Matt's offer might not be as innocuous as he claimed? You took what Matt said to be true, but you were wrong. The NLNA is not politially neutral. Let's just be clear about that - and this give due rise to skepticism of the purity of his motives. I don't know anything about a blood oath, but maybe you were just trying to be ridiculous in an attempt to appear right. I am not sure that worked though.

[LukeNapoli]

Amazing how an innocuous offer to help prepare voters is received with such skepticism. If you believe in democracy you should want people to vote, regardless where their demographic's loyalties may or may not lie.

Maybe you weren't there when Matt lead the crowd in a "Yes We Can" fist-pumping chant at the NLNA Variety Show in 2008. It was very clear that the NLNA was not a politically neutral organization.

I guess I missed the part where he says a blood oath to vote Democrat in November is required in exchange for help with an ID. My bad.

Apology accepted. How were you to know that Matt's offer might not be as innocuous as he claimed? You took what Matt said to be true, but you were wrong. The NLNA is not politially neutral. Let's just be clear about that - and this give due rise to skepticism of the purity of his motives. I don't know anything about a blood oath, but maybe you were just trying to be ridiculous in an attempt to appear right. I am not sure that worked though.

Regardless whether NLNA and its leaders are politically neutral (is anyone 100 pct?), the offer looks pretty unbiased. I'm glad you picked up on the sarcasm since it was heavily veiled, but something tells me Matt did not offer in an attempt to deny IDs to those ideologically opposed to him.

In fairness, I suppose you could have a problem with it if you don't like people exercising their voting rights.

[NoLibPerson]

Amazing how an innocuous offer to help prepare voters is received with such skepticism. If you believe in democracy you should want people to vote, regardless where their demographic's loyalties may or may not lie.

Maybe you weren't there when Matt lead the crowd in a "Yes We Can" fist-pumping chant at the NLNA Variety Show in 2008. It was very clear that the NLNA was not a politically neutral organization.

I guess I missed the part where he says a blood oath to vote Democrat in November is required in exchange for help with an ID. My bad.

Apology accepted. How were you to know that Matt's offer might not be as innocuous as he claimed? You took what Matt said to be true, but you were wrong. The NLNA is not politially neutral. Let's just be clear about that - and this give due rise to skepticism of the purity of his motives. I don't know anything about a blood oath, but maybe you were just trying to be ridiculous in an attempt to appear right. I am not sure that worked though.

Seems more than slightly presumptuous to provide an interpretation of Matt's offer in a manner other than what he actually stated. Whatever the individual NLNA members' beliefs may be, I believe the NLNA will help anyone who needs assistance getting an ID, regardless of which lever they intend to pull (or button to push as the case may be).

[David]

Yea because we all know people in their 80's tend to vote progressive right? /Sarcasm

Yes, they do. Age has nothing to do with political leanings. It depends on who someone is, where they're from and what they've learned during their lives. Many people in their 80s today grew up progressive. To stereotype an 80-year-old as a right-wing voter makes about as much sense as saying a 40-year-old will always vote liberal.

Did you even read your own post before you hit the submit button? let me show you the problem...

Yes, they do.

Age has nothing to do with political leanings.

Many people in their 80s today grew up progressive.

Make sure you agree with yourself before you try to disagree with me. Oh and you also TOTALLY missed my point. I was saying that we don't know how people in their 80's vote, hence Matt's post is non-political and 4th street is trolling (as usual).

The three lines you quoted are not in conflict. But thanks for the unwarranted and undeserved insult.